"It’s a lynched man, with a circle. And all the circle paintings, they are the hardest thing to do in my life, period. This was completed during the trial of Derek Chauvin, the guy who killed Floyd, it was just happening and it was, like, so very difficult. It’s the first time in my showing career that I have told the gallery I want to control where this goes. Because very, very interestingly, the associate director, and the contemporary curator from Holland, they’d been at the Art Institute. Ann Goldstein and some other guy, they came to the studio, because they want to buy that. They want a certain piece from the DNA series. So I showed them that work downstairs, and I decided, well, I’m gonna bring them up to my studio, and show them what I’m working on now. And I showed them this piece. And, they couldn’t see the lynched man. I showed them the rope. I showed them the neck. And, I inquired further at my gallery who haven’t seen it in person. They have it on the computer. They can tell what it is. So I decided, I’m not telling anyone; but a person that can’t see it, cannot buy it. For sure."